What is the best nest bedding material?

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Spiderman
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Location: Gladewater, Texas

I use pine straw too. Pick it up at parks in town.

Drains water quickly and last for the season without deteriorating.

Makes clean up go faster when season is over.
Colony started in 2002

Offering 82 Troyer Horizontal Gourds

2018 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 203 MARTINS
2019 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 268 MARTINS
2020 - 82 PAIR - FLEDGED 392 MARTINS
2021 - 78 PAIR - FLEDGED 349 MARTINS
2022 - 76 PAIR - FLEDGED 373 MARTINS
2023 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 355 MARTINS

*2023 Added 2”X4” wire cages to all three Troyer Gemini Gourd Racks to deal with Great Horned Owl predation on Colony.
Rick B
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Not sure what is the best , but i started using soybean stems a few years ago with great success. After the field is pick I take the riding lawn mower and start driving in circles and making piles to pick up. I store them in a 50 gallon drum just making sure thay are completely dry to prevent mold. I do add some white pine needles to the mixture when prenesting. When just using pine needles the martins seemed to push them aside in the gourds and nest trays.

Rick
Conrad Baker
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Location: Paulina, Louisiana

Pine needles. I order it from this website, under the "Shop Purple Martin" section. I am waiting for an order now, I should get it any day. It is always perfectly clean and dry.
Thomabear
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Location: Cut Off, Louisiana

Has anyone ever tried cypress tree leaves? I have access to a ton of this stuff along with pine needles.
2019- 6 Pair, 30 Fledged
2020- 8 Pair, 32 Fledged
2021- 10 Pair, 39 Fledged
HOSP count 130, Starlings 2
2022- 31 Pair, 146 Fledged
HOSP count to date 17, Starlings 1
2023- 28 Pair, 124 Fledged
HOSP count 47, Starlings 1
2024- 40 Pair, 192 Fledged
HOSP count 37
2025-42 Pair, 202 Fledged
HOSP count 46
Conrad Baker
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Location: Paulina, Louisiana

Two replies above, I wrote that I order the pine needles from here. I order them every year, and ordered more on Dec 1st. I just received them today. They are priced right and arrive clean and dry. Order some now so you can get them and start getting the housing ready. It won't be long before we will start seeing the Scout Arrival Reports.
mjfog
Posts: 450
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:40 pm
Location: Palm City, FL
Martin Colony History: 2018 will be my first try. 6 S&K B09s. 29 eggs - 8 fledged
2019 - 12 Troyer Horizontals with tunnels, 6 S&K B09s and 12 B011s all with tunnels. 43 eggs - 36 fledged
2020 - Rack 1 - 6 B011s, Rack 2 - 24 B011s, and Rack 3 - 24 Troyer Horizontals. All gourds have tunnels, porches and crescent/Conley 11 entrances; racks have predator guards. 161 eggs - 88 fledged.
2021 - 54 gourds-214 eggs, 184 hatched, 168 fledged.
2022 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 363 eggs, 294 hatched, 278 fledged.
2023 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 321 eggs, 276 hatched, 246 fledged.
2024 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 330 eggs, 283 hatched, 250 fledged.
2025 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 347 eggs, 281 hatched, 266 fledged.

Last season I "prenested" 1/2 of my 72 gourds with slash pine needles, the dominate nesting material in this part of southeastern Florida. I have 3 racks of 24 gourds each and added needles to every other gourd - as random as I could get. So 36 had needles and 36 were empty. If my memory serves me correctly, I had one "prenested" gourd with no eggs and a single "empty" gourd with no eggs. The 70 other gourds had eggs. Makes this land lord think "prenesting" is a waste of time. I think of it more as a "feel good" thing for the individual land lord. No "prenesting" this season for me.
Began hanging my gourds on 12/22/22 because of that sighting in the West Palm Beach area, about 25 miles south of where I am in Palm City. I usually don't see "my" martins until mid-January but "ya never know."
Happy Holidays to all you folks out there and have a Happy Martining Season. Mike
brent
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Location: Raceland, Louisiana

Mjfog you are probably right. I prenest with pine needles. I make a really nice bed. Whether it’s used for nesting or not it makes a nice space for those tired hungry martins, especially if it’s cold. Last year all my nest were prenested. The martins built over it utilizing the pine needles as part of the nest. It was the base for them. It was one of my more successful season. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanza, and gentle peace to every one. Brent
Brent
mjfog
Posts: 450
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:40 pm
Location: Palm City, FL
Martin Colony History: 2018 will be my first try. 6 S&K B09s. 29 eggs - 8 fledged
2019 - 12 Troyer Horizontals with tunnels, 6 S&K B09s and 12 B011s all with tunnels. 43 eggs - 36 fledged
2020 - Rack 1 - 6 B011s, Rack 2 - 24 B011s, and Rack 3 - 24 Troyer Horizontals. All gourds have tunnels, porches and crescent/Conley 11 entrances; racks have predator guards. 161 eggs - 88 fledged.
2021 - 54 gourds-214 eggs, 184 hatched, 168 fledged.
2022 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 363 eggs, 294 hatched, 278 fledged.
2023 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 321 eggs, 276 hatched, 246 fledged.
2024 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 330 eggs, 283 hatched, 250 fledged.
2025 - 3 racks of 24 gourds. 347 eggs, 281 hatched, 266 fledged.

None. Let the females decide.
Spiderman
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Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:19 am
Location: Gladewater, Texas

Any pine tree needles work great!
Colony started in 2002

Offering 82 Troyer Horizontal Gourds

2018 - 45 PAIR - FLEDGED 203 MARTINS
2019 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 268 MARTINS
2020 - 82 PAIR - FLEDGED 392 MARTINS
2021 - 78 PAIR - FLEDGED 349 MARTINS
2022 - 76 PAIR - FLEDGED 373 MARTINS
2023 - 68 PAIR - FLEDGED 355 MARTINS

*2023 Added 2”X4” wire cages to all three Troyer Gemini Gourd Racks to deal with Great Horned Owl predation on Colony.
defed
Posts: 281
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:50 pm
Location: WNY
Martin Colony History: :
2022 - 1 pair, 5E, 4H, 4F
2023 - 2 pair, 9E, 5H, 5F
2024 - 4 pair, 16E, 16H, 14F (2 more pair started nests but failed due to weather/loss of mate).

mjfog wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:39 pm
None. Let the females decide.
my only pair built a beautiful nest on top of the pine needles i put in for them. if nothing else, it lifted their nest up off the floor in case any moisture got in.
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