Private messaging has been disabled on this board?
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ThomasOutlaw
- Posts: 9
- Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:25 pm
- Location: Virginia/Glen Allen
Last night, I signed up to be a mentor on the PMCA website. After I had logged in and filled out the mentoring form, I happened to go over to the forum and then clicked on 'Messages' to look at some old messages that I had previously send and received and when I clicked on "Messages", the system replied with "Private messaging has been disabled on this board." When did this happen, and why???
Last edited by ThomasOutlaw on Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
2011 - 0 Martins
2012 - Some Visitors
2013 - Some Visitors
2014 - 2Pair - 1 ASY pair fledged 5 babies and 1 SY pair fledged 2 babies
2015- 7 Pairs w/28 total eggs as of 5/19/2015
2012 - Some Visitors
2013 - Some Visitors
2014 - 2Pair - 1 ASY pair fledged 5 babies and 1 SY pair fledged 2 babies
2015- 7 Pairs w/28 total eggs as of 5/19/2015
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4th Gen Martin Fan
- Posts: 1498
- Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:19 pm
- Location: TN/Collierville
- Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.
Thomas,
You are correct. I was going to private message Tim Mangan off the PMCA Forum to ask him for the pictures of a Troyer Horizontal Gourd (THG) with PVC vents that he posted on 11/26/2009. Steve Kroenke started and discussed a timeless and very informative post about venting the THGs. Tim Mangan posted a small study he conducted about plastic gourd temperatures with various venting methods. I recall that the pictures were very helpful to anyone then, now and in the future.
Tony,
Glad to hear from you.
Mark.
You are correct. I was going to private message Tim Mangan off the PMCA Forum to ask him for the pictures of a Troyer Horizontal Gourd (THG) with PVC vents that he posted on 11/26/2009. Steve Kroenke started and discussed a timeless and very informative post about venting the THGs. Tim Mangan posted a small study he conducted about plastic gourd temperatures with various venting methods. I recall that the pictures were very helpful to anyone then, now and in the future.
Tony,
Glad to hear from you.
Mark.
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
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KathyF
- Posts: 3522
- Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
- Location: Missouri/Licking
- Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.
Regarding the messaging, I think I recall a similar post and Louise responded there were issues, but they're working on an updated version of a forum or something or other - try the search function on messaging and it should pop up.
Mark:
Here's one of Tim's posts on that topic:
Here's a post that Tim Mangan did 2 years ago....
" Several years ago, I conducted a test to determine inside temperature of my gourds vs outside ambient temperature. Following is a picture of the three gourds I used. All three were Troyer horizontal tunneled gourds. These three gourds were hanging on my gourd rack at the same time. One gourd was not vented at all, one gourd had two holes I drilled in the back and the third gourd had a PVC elbow vent installed. (In the picture, it shows PVC elbow vents in all three gourds. The PVC vents on the two gourds on the left were installed after the test was conducted.)
Following is a picture of the Omega temperature sensor I used to conduct the readings.
The temperature reading on the gourd without any type of vent registered 4 to 6 degrees hotter than the other two gourds which were vented. One interesting point was the temperature readings in the gourd with the two drilled holes registered the same as the gourd with the PVC elbow vent.
TimMangan
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And another:
http://www.purplemartin.org/forum/viewt ... &highlight
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And finally, a great article on it (albeit a bit old)
http://www.purplemartin.org/forumarchiv ... mptest.htm
Mark:
Here's one of Tim's posts on that topic:
Here's a post that Tim Mangan did 2 years ago....
" Several years ago, I conducted a test to determine inside temperature of my gourds vs outside ambient temperature. Following is a picture of the three gourds I used. All three were Troyer horizontal tunneled gourds. These three gourds were hanging on my gourd rack at the same time. One gourd was not vented at all, one gourd had two holes I drilled in the back and the third gourd had a PVC elbow vent installed. (In the picture, it shows PVC elbow vents in all three gourds. The PVC vents on the two gourds on the left were installed after the test was conducted.)
Following is a picture of the Omega temperature sensor I used to conduct the readings.
The temperature reading on the gourd without any type of vent registered 4 to 6 degrees hotter than the other two gourds which were vented. One interesting point was the temperature readings in the gourd with the two drilled holes registered the same as the gourd with the PVC elbow vent.
TimMangan
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And another:
http://www.purplemartin.org/forum/viewt ... &highlight
============
And finally, a great article on it (albeit a bit old)
http://www.purplemartin.org/forumarchiv ... mptest.htm
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com
It was my understanding that there were some system updates made on the back end software that powers the forum (open source, bulletin board software, called "phpBB") that resulted in the private messaging module not functioning.
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KathyF
- Posts: 3522
- Joined: Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm
- Location: Missouri/Licking
- Martin Colony History: Colony started - 2007 with one pair
As of 2018 - 84 cavities offered, max # of pairs hosted - 82.
Matt, your reasoning sounds much more official than mine.Matt F. wrote:It was my understanding that there were some system updates made on the back end software that powers the forum (open source, bulletin board software, called "phpBB") that resulted in the private messaging module to not function.
"Sometimes", said Pooh, "the smallest things take up the most room in your heart."
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com
2023 - 82 pair
2022 - 80 pair
2021 - 75 pair
2020 - 78 pair
2019 - 80 pair
http://kathyfreeze.blogspot.com
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4th Gen Martin Fan
- Posts: 1498
- Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:19 pm
- Location: TN/Collierville
- Martin Colony History: I have been exposed to purple martin sounds in utero when my mother went out to get my father away from his martin colony.
I played around the martin colony every summer and watched as my father maintained his colony. In the late 50's until the 70's he did not notice European Starlings in south Texas.
When old enough, I helped maintain his colony. My primary task was eliminating English House Sparrows with a 1956 Benjamin 317 .177 air rifle.
When I settled into my own home, I started my first colony with an original Trio Castle and Trio Grandpa. When I moved again, I did not put up any martin houses. Frustration with European Starlings in the Southeast US was overwhelming.
Found PMCA Forum and learned about modern enlarged compartments and SREHs.
Inherited my father's last martin house, a Trio Grandma, modified it to modern specifications and have had good results since then.
Kathy,
Those articles are so poignant. Glenn Davis, Tim Mangan, Steve Kroenke, you and so many others have proved that venting, opague material, and light color is so important in controlling the inside compartment temperatures of our martin housing.
I just wish I could get the PVC elbows, take my hole saws, and go to Texas and fix my sister's THGs this afternoon! Not practical but sure wish I could.
I guess I have fixated too much on the PVC elbows rather than just drilling the vent holes like Steve Kroenke does.
My reasoning to the PVC elbows is that I can insert and remove plugs in the PVC elbows so easily.
I guess that living and working in a hot, humid, and sunny environment like South and Central Texas for 30 years of my life has made me extremely aware of the misery of those conditions.
After installing fiberglass insulation in the attic of a house during a summer day in Texas made me aware why the nestlings jump prematurely. The mite bites on the nestlings and the heat of 120+ degree temperature of an unventilated gourd must be unbearable.
Mark.
Those articles are so poignant. Glenn Davis, Tim Mangan, Steve Kroenke, you and so many others have proved that venting, opague material, and light color is so important in controlling the inside compartment temperatures of our martin housing.
I just wish I could get the PVC elbows, take my hole saws, and go to Texas and fix my sister's THGs this afternoon! Not practical but sure wish I could.
I guess I have fixated too much on the PVC elbows rather than just drilling the vent holes like Steve Kroenke does.
My reasoning to the PVC elbows is that I can insert and remove plugs in the PVC elbows so easily.
I guess that living and working in a hot, humid, and sunny environment like South and Central Texas for 30 years of my life has made me extremely aware of the misery of those conditions.
After installing fiberglass insulation in the attic of a house during a summer day in Texas made me aware why the nestlings jump prematurely. The mite bites on the nestlings and the heat of 120+ degree temperature of an unventilated gourd must be unbearable.
Mark.
Mark.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
Firm believer in HOSP/EUST Control, Enlarged Compartments, SREHs, Pole Predator Guards, Owl/Hawk Guards, Mite/Parasite Control, Housing Insulation, and Vents for Compartment Cooling.
PMCA Member.
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Tim Mangan-Kansas
- Posts: 1728
- Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:25 am
- Location: Kansas, Pittsburg
- Martin Colony History: 2016 - 22 Pair
Mark:
Sorry, I could not find the post you were referring to but I did find the picture, I THINK, you are referring to. It shows the three THG gourds I used in the ambient temperature test. One on left had no ventilation, the second one has two holes drilled in the dimples of the THG gourd and the third one has the 45 degree angle PVC vent. (The first two also have the PVC vents but I had them plugged with cork to conduct the test.) The gourd without any ventilation ran 6-7 degrees hotter than the other two vented gourds. There was no difference in temperature between the gourd with the two drilled holes and the one with the PVC vent.
Tim
Sorry, I could not find the post you were referring to but I did find the picture, I THINK, you are referring to. It shows the three THG gourds I used in the ambient temperature test. One on left had no ventilation, the second one has two holes drilled in the dimples of the THG gourd and the third one has the 45 degree angle PVC vent. (The first two also have the PVC vents but I had them plugged with cork to conduct the test.) The gourd without any ventilation ran 6-7 degrees hotter than the other two vented gourds. There was no difference in temperature between the gourd with the two drilled holes and the one with the PVC vent.
Tim
Licensed Bander
2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
2014 - Moved to Kansas - 7 Pair, 35 eggs, 28 fledged in first year
2010 Thru 2013 - Moved-Tried to start new colony
2009 - 46 pair, 217 eggs, 178 fledged
2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
2014 - Moved to Kansas - 7 Pair, 35 eggs, 28 fledged in first year
2010 Thru 2013 - Moved-Tried to start new colony
2009 - 46 pair, 217 eggs, 178 fledged
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Tim Mangan-Kansas
- Posts: 1728
- Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:25 am
- Location: Kansas, Pittsburg
- Martin Colony History: 2016 - 22 Pair
Sorry, above double posted on me.
Licensed Bander
2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
2014 - Moved to Kansas - 7 Pair, 35 eggs, 28 fledged in first year
2010 Thru 2013 - Moved-Tried to start new colony
2009 - 46 pair, 217 eggs, 178 fledged
2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
2014 - Moved to Kansas - 7 Pair, 35 eggs, 28 fledged in first year
2010 Thru 2013 - Moved-Tried to start new colony
2009 - 46 pair, 217 eggs, 178 fledged