I have been singing that old Beatles' song, "Here Comes The Sun" for about an hour! Finally after days of cold miserable cloudy weather/temperatures, the beautiful sun returned and the temperatures are on the rise! I was beginning to think the sun was gone forever!
The warm sunshine will activate many flying insects and the martins will have plenty to eat today. The martins quickly left their housing and are now no doubt filling their bellies!
We probably have around 200 martins in our two colonies at this time and some may be migrants that were staying here during the cold spell. With the favorable weather here, I suspect that these migrants will probably be heading north now.
The winds will be changing from the north to the south and this usually means more martins will be returning to our area. March is the main month for ASY martins to return to our colonies.
My large order of crickets is supposed to arrive tomorrow but I won't need them at this time. I will freeze the crickets and they will be available should another prolonged cold spell invade our area. I do have a question for folks who freeze crickets. How long will crickets "remain good" in a frozen state? If I didn't need to use any for this season, would they still be a viable food source next year? Thanks for any feedback.
Steve
Here Comes The Sun!
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Steve Kroenke
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Connie
- Posts: 441
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- Location: WALKER, LOUISIANA
- Martin Colony History: Had my site up to 22 gourds of which most (+/-3) stayed occupied.
Downsized to 17 gourds due to back surgeries. Had 14 families in 2017 but did not do nest checks due to health. Feeling better in 2018 and hoping for a good year.
Steve,
I am down near Baton Rouge. We are surely not getting any of that sunshine you are singing about! Do you think if I sing I could get some too?

I am down near Baton Rouge. We are surely not getting any of that sunshine you are singing about! Do you think if I sing I could get some too?
Connie
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Doug Martin - PA
- Posts: 1988
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- Location: Pennsylvania/Fombell
- Martin Colony History: First pair in 2009 after 28 years of trying. 3 pairs 2010, 17 pairs 2011 and 35-45 pairs since. Many additional colonies are now springing up around mine in an area once completely void of Martins. I offer 50 compartments at my site consisting of primarily Excluder II gourds on Gemini racks. Also a wooden T-14. I utilize electric fence type predator guards on the base of the poles. Supplemental feeding is crucial in maintaining my colony. I platform feed throughout the season as needed. My site tends to be a stop over point for additional birds as they migrate further north.
Hi Steve
Glad your Martins are getting a good day to feed.
Crickets will supposedly last a year in the freezer. It is important to provide a heavy paper bag as a cover. Or wrap them in newspaper first even, then a paperbag afterward. Of course they will be in a plastic zip lock bag too. The paper seems to prevent freezer frost.
I have never kept them till the following season however. Seems they always find a mouth to feed and I need more than I order.
Good luck down there.
Doug
Glad your Martins are getting a good day to feed.
Crickets will supposedly last a year in the freezer. It is important to provide a heavy paper bag as a cover. Or wrap them in newspaper first even, then a paperbag afterward. Of course they will be in a plastic zip lock bag too. The paper seems to prevent freezer frost.
I have never kept them till the following season however. Seems they always find a mouth to feed and I need more than I order.
Good luck down there.
Doug
Supplemental feeding plays a major role in Western Pennsylvania. Finally got my 1st pair in 2009 after 28 years of effort. The colony has grown quickly to 45 pairs that I care for. Many new colonies have now sprung up around me in the past few years as well. Where there was none.... there is many.
Wow Steve that is a large colonies and amount of birds to feed. Hats off to you. Hope the sun comes out for you and you have a good season. And I have heard they will be good. But I have never used them a year later. Mealworms I have.
2008 1 pair
2009 3 pair
2010 7 pair
2011 20 pair
2012 44 pair 280 eggs 210 fledged
2013 67 pair.
2014 67pair
2015-2022 67 pair
2009 3 pair
2010 7 pair
2011 20 pair
2012 44 pair 280 eggs 210 fledged
2013 67 pair.
2014 67pair
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baileysambone
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Steve,
I'm with Connie. I'm not getting any sun shine here either.
I've kept my crickets for 2 years. I tripple bag them in freezer bags, and I used the ones I bought in 2012 last year.
Yvonne
I'm with Connie. I'm not getting any sun shine here either.
I've kept my crickets for 2 years. I tripple bag them in freezer bags, and I used the ones I bought in 2012 last year.
Yvonne
2011 visitors
2012 1 pair ASY male, SY female 9 eggs, 8 hatched, fledged 5
2013 5 pair fledged 8
2014 4 pair fledged 15
2015 7 pair fledged 25
2016 10 pair fledged 31
2017 17 pair fledged 69
2018 18 pair fledged 69
2019 21 pair fledged 52 (biting gnats lost babies)
2020 17 pair fledged 53
2021 16 pair fledged 62 ( hard freeze in Feb for days. Lost 39 birds. My oldest and wisest)
2022 11 pair fledged 43
2012 1 pair ASY male, SY female 9 eggs, 8 hatched, fledged 5
2013 5 pair fledged 8
2014 4 pair fledged 15
2015 7 pair fledged 25
2016 10 pair fledged 31
2017 17 pair fledged 69
2018 18 pair fledged 69
2019 21 pair fledged 52 (biting gnats lost babies)
2020 17 pair fledged 53
2021 16 pair fledged 62 ( hard freeze in Feb for days. Lost 39 birds. My oldest and wisest)
2022 11 pair fledged 43
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Connie
- Posts: 441
- Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:05 pm
- Location: WALKER, LOUISIANA
- Martin Colony History: Had my site up to 22 gourds of which most (+/-3) stayed occupied.
Downsized to 17 gourds due to back surgeries. Had 14 families in 2017 but did not do nest checks due to health. Feeling better in 2018 and hoping for a good year.
Yvonne,
Isn't this the craziest weather ever for us? Saturday I rode in the Spanish Town Parade; it was in the upper 70's right? The next day there is ice hanging from the trees!!
I never did understand how people could live up North with gray skies and snow and slush and mud. I have been depressed all winter. But, of course they can't understand how we live down here with the heat, humidity and hurricanes and mosquitoes as big as horse flies!!
I truly wish singing about the sunshine would bring it on...lol.... but I don't think it is going to happen today....well, there's always tomorrow!!
Isn't this the craziest weather ever for us? Saturday I rode in the Spanish Town Parade; it was in the upper 70's right? The next day there is ice hanging from the trees!!
I never did understand how people could live up North with gray skies and snow and slush and mud. I have been depressed all winter. But, of course they can't understand how we live down here with the heat, humidity and hurricanes and mosquitoes as big as horse flies!!
I truly wish singing about the sunshine would bring it on...lol.... but I don't think it is going to happen today....well, there's always tomorrow!!
Connie
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Steve Kroenke
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I really appreciate the feedback! Doug, I didn't know about the paper bag cover so this information is most helpful. I will be putting them in plastic freezer bags and then using the paper bag.
Connie/Yvonne,
I can't tell you how good it felt to see all that nasty gray mess finally move on and be replaced with bluebird skies and that big ole' smiling sun! It is still cool, but the temperatures should be in the mid 50s today and that is a big improvement over what we have had. Y'all should be getting some sunshine soon, too.
I don't see how folks live up north with all that cold, ice, snow and endless days of winter. I guess if you have lived there all your life then you adapt.
I was born and raised in the Deep South and I can sweat better than I can shake! I'll take our heat and humidity any day over zero temps and blizzards!
Chickadee,
All this sunshine is going to my head I think! I haven't seen the sun in so long!
Meal worms are good food for martins, too and I have a friend in Dallas who feeds his martins meal worms if necessary. He even has small bowls he places inside the house cavities and puts the meal worms in the bowls.
Steve
Connie/Yvonne,
I can't tell you how good it felt to see all that nasty gray mess finally move on and be replaced with bluebird skies and that big ole' smiling sun! It is still cool, but the temperatures should be in the mid 50s today and that is a big improvement over what we have had. Y'all should be getting some sunshine soon, too.
I don't see how folks live up north with all that cold, ice, snow and endless days of winter. I guess if you have lived there all your life then you adapt.
I was born and raised in the Deep South and I can sweat better than I can shake! I'll take our heat and humidity any day over zero temps and blizzards!
Chickadee,
All this sunshine is going to my head I think! I haven't seen the sun in so long!
Meal worms are good food for martins, too and I have a friend in Dallas who feeds his martins meal worms if necessary. He even has small bowls he places inside the house cavities and puts the meal worms in the bowls.
Steve
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taxidermy lady
- Posts: 2988
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- Location: IL/Ellis Grove
- Martin Colony History: Started trying to attract purple martins in 2012! It's finally happened in 2017! 5 years!!! ASY male and SY female came May 1st, fledged 5 babies!
Yeah Connie,
I am in southern Il. About 50 miles south of St. Louis and the temperature changed here one day from 70 degrees to wind chills below zero that night. I think anywhere you live there always weather and bugs (need these for our martins). I actually put a house up today with snow on the ground. I just couldn't stand that empty yard anymore. I had to dig through the snow to find my ground sleeve. Have all holes plugged so those pesky sparrows will stay out. I am so anxious March15 is our date? Wish you a great year.
I am in southern Il. About 50 miles south of St. Louis and the temperature changed here one day from 70 degrees to wind chills below zero that night. I think anywhere you live there always weather and bugs (need these for our martins). I actually put a house up today with snow on the ground. I just couldn't stand that empty yard anymore. I had to dig through the snow to find my ground sleeve. Have all holes plugged so those pesky sparrows will stay out. I am so anxious March15 is our date? Wish you a great year.
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Tim Mangan-Kansas
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- Martin Colony History: 2016 - 22 Pair
Hi Steve.
Finally some nice weather for us here in SE Kansas today. Into the 60's tomorrow. I put up my two houses and four gourds on my MP pole today. It is time for the first scouts to arrive in Kansas. Maybe you have been hosting some of them the past few days. Lady down the street has a martin/sparrow colony and says hers usually return March 15th. She hasn't put up her housing yet. If hers return next week, they will find housing at my site.
I had to supplemental feed each year I had a colony in Hot Springs. I put 150 crickets in a plastic bag and then put that bag in a freezer bag. I used crickets the year I ordered them and also the following year.
Tim
Finally some nice weather for us here in SE Kansas today. Into the 60's tomorrow. I put up my two houses and four gourds on my MP pole today. It is time for the first scouts to arrive in Kansas. Maybe you have been hosting some of them the past few days. Lady down the street has a martin/sparrow colony and says hers usually return March 15th. She hasn't put up her housing yet. If hers return next week, they will find housing at my site.
I had to supplemental feed each year I had a colony in Hot Springs. I put 150 crickets in a plastic bag and then put that bag in a freezer bag. I used crickets the year I ordered them and also the following year.
Tim
Licensed Bander
2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
2014 - Moved to Kansas - 7 Pair, 35 eggs, 28 fledged in first year
2010 Thru 2013 - Moved-Tried to start new colony
2009 - 46 pair, 217 eggs, 178 fledged
2015 - 14 Pair - fledged 68
2014 - Moved to Kansas - 7 Pair, 35 eggs, 28 fledged in first year
2010 Thru 2013 - Moved-Tried to start new colony
2009 - 46 pair, 217 eggs, 178 fledged
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Steve Kroenke
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Hey Tim,
Yes, it is about time we all got some nice weather after what many of us have been through!
I sure hope you get a nice martin colony started this year at your new home. Since there is a nearby colony, then that should increase your chances of attracting martins.
Though most of our martins did survive these cold spells, the martins were definitely stressed. I ordered several thousand crickets and I will be prepared if we get another bad weather situation. We really haven't had a need to feed the martins in the past as the cold spells rarely lasted long.
Please keep us posted about your new colony site.
Steve
Yes, it is about time we all got some nice weather after what many of us have been through!
I sure hope you get a nice martin colony started this year at your new home. Since there is a nearby colony, then that should increase your chances of attracting martins.
Though most of our martins did survive these cold spells, the martins were definitely stressed. I ordered several thousand crickets and I will be prepared if we get another bad weather situation. We really haven't had a need to feed the martins in the past as the cold spells rarely lasted long.
Please keep us posted about your new colony site.
Steve
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ljd-kc
- Posts: 162
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- Location: Kansas City, Mo.
- Martin Colony History: Started my Colony in 2008 with 32 gourds and one ASY pair. As of 2017 I had 106 cavities with 106 pair.
Steve,
I have used crickets that had been in the freezer for slightly over two years and the martins took them readily. Can't say for sure what nutritional loss was incurred though. I believe that crickets stored in a freezer that is NOT frost free would be better than those crickets stored in a frost free freezer.
Jack
I have used crickets that had been in the freezer for slightly over two years and the martins took them readily. Can't say for sure what nutritional loss was incurred though. I believe that crickets stored in a freezer that is NOT frost free would be better than those crickets stored in a frost free freezer.
Jack
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M.Stephens
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Steve,
I fed my martins crickets yesterday evening. First time ever. It took a while for them to catch on but when they did it was really cool. I bought mine at a bait shop. I may purchase some on line this year because of the exceptionally cold winter.
I have kept crickets in the freezer from one year to the next.
I currently have 50 to 60 martins at my site.
I fed my martins crickets yesterday evening. First time ever. It took a while for them to catch on but when they did it was really cool. I bought mine at a bait shop. I may purchase some on line this year because of the exceptionally cold winter.
I have kept crickets in the freezer from one year to the next.
I currently have 50 to 60 martins at my site.
Malcolm
2015 (110 nesting pair)
2014 (92 nesting pair)
2013 (75 nesting pair)
2012 (35 nesting pair)
2011 (20 pair)
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Steve: Before I was able to get birds at home I rehabed many babbies and very young birds from several landlords that had freez-outs. I did this for many years, untill they learned to supplamentl feed their birds. I still get a few but not like in the past. I bought them in large amounts and would keep my crickets for aweek and let them breed,give them trays to lay their eggs in and then freeze the adults. For several years I just kept them reporducing, winter and summer,(lots of work,fun at first). What I wanted to say was I kept them for more than a couple of years in the frezeer with good results. The trick is the type of freezer. A self defrost will not keep them nearly as long as a no defrost freezer will. I gess probaly everyone knows that just thaught I would mention it. Good luck with your weather. Ed.
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Steve Kroenke
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Jack,
Thanks for that information about the freezer and time frame! My crickets will arrive today some time. It is good to know that the crickets may last as long as two years.
Steve
Malcom,
We have a local bait shop but I didn't check with them. I decided to go with reptilefoods on the Internet.
Since I have never fed my martins before, it will probably be a learning process for the martins and me. Plus we have so many martins now.
Last evening it seemed more martins arrived at roosting time and there was a lot of fighting.
Thanks for confirming you have kept crickets in the freezer from one year to the next.
Steve
Ed,
Thanks for all the good information about crickets! It looks like you had a "cricket colony"!
Since we occasionally get martin nestlings that "jump" and these may be undernourished, I plan to also use the crickets to feed these youngsters for a short time and the place them back in their nests.
And thanks for confirming that crickets can be kept for several years in a freezer.
Steve
Thanks for that information about the freezer and time frame! My crickets will arrive today some time. It is good to know that the crickets may last as long as two years.
Steve
Malcom,
We have a local bait shop but I didn't check with them. I decided to go with reptilefoods on the Internet.
Since I have never fed my martins before, it will probably be a learning process for the martins and me. Plus we have so many martins now.
Last evening it seemed more martins arrived at roosting time and there was a lot of fighting.
Thanks for confirming you have kept crickets in the freezer from one year to the next.
Steve
Ed,
Thanks for all the good information about crickets! It looks like you had a "cricket colony"!
Since we occasionally get martin nestlings that "jump" and these may be undernourished, I plan to also use the crickets to feed these youngsters for a short time and the place them back in their nests.
And thanks for confirming that crickets can be kept for several years in a freezer.
Steve
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300+ pairs of martins each season
300+ pairs of martins each season
Hi Steve,
Yes, the sun did come out bringing the temps to 62-63 degrees which was good to see.
Thank you for the valuable feeding information about how sun light will activate bug activity so we might have an idea if the birds could find food earlier this week. I think our regions are almost equal in temps most of the time accept you guys are blessed with much more rain.... atleast last year.
I went over to the site on Tues and Wed morning to leave food on the porches but it was not at 25 per bird as needed with the count at 12 on site presently. Let me say that buying crickets at Pet Smart at $.12 a crickett is "expensive".
My crickets should also arrive from reptile foods today. I hope to see them Sat and discover that all are ok.
Thank you for your always helpful information
Yes, the sun did come out bringing the temps to 62-63 degrees which was good to see.
Thank you for the valuable feeding information about how sun light will activate bug activity so we might have an idea if the birds could find food earlier this week. I think our regions are almost equal in temps most of the time accept you guys are blessed with much more rain.... atleast last year.
I went over to the site on Tues and Wed morning to leave food on the porches but it was not at 25 per bird as needed with the count at 12 on site presently. Let me say that buying crickets at Pet Smart at $.12 a crickett is "expensive".
My crickets should also arrive from reptile foods today. I hope to see them Sat and discover that all are ok.
Thank you for your always helpful information
2008~(1st yr) 4 pairs, 11 to 12 fledged
2009~(2nd yr) 9 pairs, 41 fledged
2010~(3rd year) 11 pairs. 50 fledged
2011~(4th year) 20 pairs, 23 out of 23 gourds Martin occupied, 3 fledged, the rest died in the drought. (1 new Blue Bird, 3 BB fledged.)
2012~ 26 pairs, approx. 100-110 fledged
2009~(2nd yr) 9 pairs, 41 fledged
2010~(3rd year) 11 pairs. 50 fledged
2011~(4th year) 20 pairs, 23 out of 23 gourds Martin occupied, 3 fledged, the rest died in the drought. (1 new Blue Bird, 3 BB fledged.)
2012~ 26 pairs, approx. 100-110 fledged
