Weird nest
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Sam Harris
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- Location: Oklahoma/Choctaw & Tinker AFB
I found this nest above a window that looked like an old barn swallow nest converted to a new nest. I think the bird nesting in it is an Eastern Phoebe. There is only one problem, Two of the eggs look different than the others. Four are white, and two are larger and spotted. I think this might be the work of a cowbird. What do yall think?
Sam
Choctaw, OK
2010...1 pair/5 eggs/5 fledged
2011...2pair/9 eggs/7 fledged
2012...5 pair/28 eggs/25 fledged
2013...12 pair/62 eggs/51 fledged
2014...15 pair/85 eggs/55 fledged
Choctaw, OK
2010...1 pair/5 eggs/5 fledged
2011...2pair/9 eggs/7 fledged
2012...5 pair/28 eggs/25 fledged
2013...12 pair/62 eggs/51 fledged
2014...15 pair/85 eggs/55 fledged
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jeffwilliams72
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- Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:22 am
- Location: Indiana/Carthage
I say, save the Phoebe's, toss the cowbird eggs! I see hundreds of cowbirds every year, yet I am lucky to see a single Phoebe.
2008/1st pair/ 4 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
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jeffwilliams72
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- Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:22 am
- Location: Indiana/Carthage
After reading other posts on this topic, I would freeze them in the evening, then let them thaw, and return them in the morning. Just in case the cowbird returns to check on them. The cowbird may destroy the Phoebe eggs if they are gone.
I don't have much love for cowbird babies, ever since I found 3 dead Chipping Sparrow babies on the ground in full sun, after being ejected from the nest by 1 giant baby cowbird.
I wanted to eject it, but the poor Chippers had no idea it wasn't theirs.
They perched on its back to feed it. I think they named him Baby Huey!
I don't have much love for cowbird babies, ever since I found 3 dead Chipping Sparrow babies on the ground in full sun, after being ejected from the nest by 1 giant baby cowbird.
I wanted to eject it, but the poor Chippers had no idea it wasn't theirs.
They perched on its back to feed it. I think they named him Baby Huey!
2008/1st pair/ 4 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
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tonyg
- Posts: 1520
- Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:16 pm
- Location: Olpe, KS
- Martin Colony History: 22 year landlord, 14 at current residence..offering 9 racks and a homemade T-8 for 166 total cavities. 160 Pair in 2018 Racks consist of a Deluxe 12, AAA 16, Starburst 16, 2 K-18 Series, Super 24, 2 Gemini, Multi-purpose/two trio’s/4gourds and a T-8..Great hobby to be involved in..
Jeff I think its safe to remove the cowbird eggs. They will lay their eggs and not return, relying on the other species of bird to hatch the eggs. Had the same thing happen to me with a pair of house finches this month. I removed them and finches hatched their own..
22 year landlord..9 Rack Systems for 2018 and my home built T-8 for a total of 166 cavities..160 pair in 2018 ..SUPER COLONY!!! Love You Bev... Fan of those St. Louis Cardinals!!!!!
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Linda Reynolds
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- Location: Adamsville, TN
It is pathetic to watch an unaware surrogate parent bird try to feed a HUGE and ever-hungry, baby. When we lived on Long Island, the poor little song sparrows were regular recipients of the cowbird's parasitic egg and youngster. Knowing that their own eggs and nestlings suffer is almost too much to swallow.....(not a pun).
I think other states should follow the lead started by Texas, and have open season on them...........They are useless!
I think other states should follow the lead started by Texas, and have open season on them...........They are useless!
Ever-Grateful,
Linda
Linda
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Sam Harris
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- Location: Oklahoma/Choctaw & Tinker AFB
For some reason they disappeared. Now there is only four white eggs.
Sam
Choctaw, OK
2010...1 pair/5 eggs/5 fledged
2011...2pair/9 eggs/7 fledged
2012...5 pair/28 eggs/25 fledged
2013...12 pair/62 eggs/51 fledged
2014...15 pair/85 eggs/55 fledged
Choctaw, OK
2010...1 pair/5 eggs/5 fledged
2011...2pair/9 eggs/7 fledged
2012...5 pair/28 eggs/25 fledged
2013...12 pair/62 eggs/51 fledged
2014...15 pair/85 eggs/55 fledged
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dsonyay
- Posts: 1677
- Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:10 pm
- Location: Louisiana/Broussard
- Martin Colony History: 2010-2014 located in Slidell LA. Gourd rack with 16 gourds. Max of 2 pairs during this short period in Slidell. Plenty of fledglings.
2014-present.. moved to Broussard LA. Same Gourd Rack but added a 6 room house (modified from a 12 room)
2020: after a long drought of nothing, 4 pairs and 4 nests, 23 eggs total.
6 fledges.
2021: 9 pair, 47 eggs
36 hatchlings
30 fledged
2022: about 12 pairs.. many eggs, all fledged.. only had one hatchling die.. probably because of our schnauzer. :(
2023: 16 pairs. So far about 60 chicks with about a dozen eggs to go.
2024: 13 pair. About 60 eggs
2025: 14 pairs .. 69 eggs.
Sam Harris wrote:For some reason they disappeared. Now there is only four white eggs.
wonder how that happened..
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jeffwilliams72
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- Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:22 am
- Location: Indiana/Carthage
Sam, glad they disappeard on you!
TonyG, thanks for keeping songbird management a little easier for me, I have always tossed the eggs, but I thought before I came on here with an opinion I would dig a little deeper, others thought the cowbirds might destroy remaining eggs if theirs were missing. But really it makes sense they wouldn't do that, just by their nature of following herds. Maybe HOSP or other creatures are responsible for these events of destroyed eggs.
TonyG, thanks for keeping songbird management a little easier for me, I have always tossed the eggs, but I thought before I came on here with an opinion I would dig a little deeper, others thought the cowbirds might destroy remaining eggs if theirs were missing. But really it makes sense they wouldn't do that, just by their nature of following herds. Maybe HOSP or other creatures are responsible for these events of destroyed eggs.
2008/1st pair/ 4 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
2009-2010 visitors only
2011/2 pr/9 eggs/8 fledged
2012/9pr/33 fledged
2013/27pr/101 fledged
